I. About the Interview
MGandhi has interviewed Harry Tuttle, famous emu scene guy who is owner of The Dump - one of the biggest ROMs downloads sites available!
II. Thanks
I want to thanks Harry Tuttle because he answered 38 questions quickly and directly. I want to thanks seventh too because he helped me with some questions.
1. Introduce yourself please
My name is Jonathan J. Burtenshaw, and I am a 23 year old resident of
Ontario, Canada. I am currently employed as a senior Web Designer at ACS Web
Group (www.acsweb.org) in Oakville, Ontario.
2. When was your first contact with emulation?
The first emulator I ever used was the Commodore 64 emulator CCS64. I had
downloaded it from a local BBS, having only a vague idea what an emulator
was. Needless to say, I was blown away by the fact that my PC was capable of
running my old C64 favourites.
3. What was your first ROM?
The first emulated game I played was 'Impossible Mission' for the C64. It
was a disk image, not a ROM image, however.
4. Why did you open The Dump?
'The Dump' officially started life back in February of 1997 as 'Selected NES
ROMs'. Marat Fayzullin had recently released his 'iNES' emulator, and there
were very few web sites that carried games in the iNES-compatible ".NES"
format. I was frustrated with downloading games only to find out they were
in the "split ROM" format (for Pasofami, the other NES emulator at the
time), and I decided to compile all the NES ROM images that I had into a web
site, so others could find the games more easily. About a month after
'Selected NES ROMs' opened, the NESticle emulator was released. Instantly
the number visits to my site increased by a factor of 10, triggering the
first site move (of many).
5. Why the name The Dump?
The act of transferring the contents of a ROM image to another source (like
a computer hard drive) is called "dumping". The ROM images themselves are
often called "dumps". Need further explanation? ;)
6. What do you think of the site to be remembered by its Genesis section?
The Genesis section was by far the most popular division of the Dump. At its
peak, it was recieving between 8,000 - 10,000 visits per day. The TurboGrafx
and Neo Geo sections of the site are much less popular (as were the systems
themselves), but they are all part of the Dump as a whole. I'm particularly
proud of the TurboGrafx section, as the TG16 is one of my favourite systems
of all time.
7. Where did those tons of ROMs come from?
Over 99% of the games on the Dump were donated by visitors to the site.
There were a lot of people out there who owned Genesis cart copiers and had
vast collections of games sitting on floppy disks. One kind donator spent
about 18 hours backing up all of his floppy disk-based ROM images onto a
CD-R to send to me. I've also received games from a number of other sources,
including a couple unreleased games direct from game programmers. As many of
them still have jobs in the videogame industry, I can't mention any of them
by name, but they were all very pleased to be able to finally "release" the
games to the public, through my web site.
8. Have you already tested all ROMs which you have received?
I test every single game in the most current emulators before putting them
online. This has been site policy ever since the Dump first opened its
doors.
9. How and when did you meet Aegis?
Aegis contacted me a few months after the TG16 section of the site went
online, asking if I would like a new logo designed for the site. I was
familiar with his previous works, so I jumped at the chance and the rest is
history.
10. Whose idea was it to open The Dump Xpress?
'The Dump Xpress' was Aegis' idea. The point of Xpress was to provide an
alternate location to download the latest additions to the Dump, as our FTP
server at classicgaming.com was often busy at that time.
11. The Dump has changed its location many times due hosting problems.
Today, most of sites already have conditions to start a site with stable and
secure hosting. What do you think about this evolution?
I'm pleased that emulation site operators don't have to face the same
hosting problems that I did. It was very frustrating to constantly have to
move the site due to excessive bandwidth consumption. I owe
Classicgaming.com a huge debt of gratitude for providing a fast, stable
location for the Dump. JoseQ (of EmuViews) was one of the first web space
providers to cater to the emulation scene.
12. Your site was always busy because its fantastic database. Do you know
monthly transfer of the site? (i.e 10Gb)
To be honest, I have absolutely no idea how much traffic my site generates.
I figured it's probably best not to ask... ;)
13. Have you received gifts from your visitors? What was the most
interesting gift?
The most interesting gift I received was a mint-condition TurboGrafx-CD
system, complete with several games and a carrying case. I had owned a
TurboGrafx-16 system for years, but I could never afford the CD drive for
it. The person who donated the TG-CD was planning on selling it, but he
wanted to give it to somebody who would appreciate it instead.
14. During these 3 years, did you work alone?
Although I was responsible for the design and maintenance of the Dump, there
were a large number of contributors along the way. As I mentioned earlier,
the vast majority of the games on the Dump were sent to me by visitors.
Without those generous people, the Dump would never have reached the size it
did. I also have to thank the people who submitted game reviews (Derek
"Seconal" Hull in particular).
15. When did you see your site was one of most visited on the net and
realize its size?
When the Dump made it to the #1 position on the Nedstat Top 10, I realized
that I had hit the "big time", so to speak. By that point, I was also
receiving over a hundred email messages a day, most of them extremely
positive.
16. Do you think your persistence was valid?
This is a difficult question. I used to spend approximately 4 hours a day
working on the Genesis site. I didn't carry any sort of paid banner
advertising, so my "reward" for running the site was the positive feedback I
received via email. Unfortunately, not all email was so positive. Regular
visitors to the Genesis site know that I received a number of downright
disturbing emails, including one death threat. There were a number of
occasions where I was ready to just take the entire site offline and begin
dedicating my time to other projects. Thankfully, the amount of time that I
dedicated to the site made me quite web-savvy and helped me land my current
job as a web site developer. I have absolutely no regrets, although I do
wish that I was able to hassle the IDSA a little more... ;)
17. How do you feel when you see that your site is one of the oldest sites
of emu scene?
Surprised, actually. Until the site moved to Classicgaming.com, keeping it
online was a constant hassle. It wasn't the copyright issue that caused the
problems, it was excessive bandwidth consumption.
18. Was IDSA the reason for ROM's Section on The Dump closure?
The Genesis section, yes. There are still TurboGrafx-16 and Neo Geo ROMs
available for download through my site.
19. According IDSA: "Your statements in the disclaimer posted in your
Website, that owning a pirated title is legal if it serves as a "backup" to
a legitimate copy is false. The fact that a person owns a legitimate copy
does not authorize any party to copy and distribute it without permission."
So, any kind of disclaimer can be used, ALL commercial ROMs are illegal?
I could offer an answer to this question, but this topic has already been
covered ad nauseum in Sam Pettus' "Emulation FAQ". If you haven't already
read the Emulation FAQ, I highly recommend that you do. I'd buy a
hard-bound, gold-embossed edition if one were available... ;)
20. After The Dump "closure" due IDSA "moves", there was a determination
from all to boycott against IDSA members. What do you think about it and its
results? Some great corps have asked for their names to be removed from the
list.
I think it's a great idea, but it hasn't made the slightest shred of
difference as far as software sales are concerned. That wasn't really the
point of the boycott, however. It was more of a means for the gaming public
to let the IDSA know that we didn't appreciate their strongarm tactics
towards emulation.
21. What was the reason to remove NES ROMs?
Two words: Magic Engine. The TurboGrafx-16 is one of my favourite systems of
all time, and when Magic Engine was released, I completely lost interest in
NES games and decided to focus on the TG16 instead. By that time, there was
already a number of other NES ROM sites, and I didn't have the web space to
host both NES and TG16, so I gave the NES site the heave-ho.
22. Do you think SEGA has a different opinion about emulation than Nintendo?
Probably not. They likely both see emulation as piracy on a grand scale. I
think Sega is a bit more liberal than the "Big N", however. After all, Sega
licensed the KGen emulator for its commercial "Smash Hits" package, and
they're currently experimenting with TG16 and Genesis emulation on the
Dreamcast.
23. Was a surprise for you the SEGA Smash Pack release?
Absolutely. I even bought a copy to help support "legal emulation".
24. ResQ and Wacky Races were games never published by the softwarehouses.
Where did they come from?
No comment. ;)
25. Rumors says that sites owners in Classicgaming receives money to keep
its site?. Do you confirm it?
I chose not to recieve any money from classicgaming.com. Any potential
profit goes towards hosting fees and server maintenance for
Classicgaming.com. I think they're most probably losing money hosting the
Dump anyway, due to the amount of bandwidth consumption.
26. What was the reason to add file_id.diz in all ROMs zip files?
Link-stealers. There were a number of unscrupulous emulation site owners
that figured out that it was easier to link directly to my file collection
than to pay for their own web space. Adding a file_id.diz file to each
archive ensured that people knew the REAL source of the games.
27. Did you eliminate all sites that were linking your ROMs?
The linking stopped after the site moved to Classicgaming.com, as they were
able to implement safeguards against external file linking.
28. Have you had problems with an emu news site?
None whatsoever.
29. Do you are still involved with emulation scene reading news, interviews
etc?
Due to my full-time job and other commitments, I'm more of a "silent
observer" now. Regardless, emulation is still one of my passions and I visit
Zophar's Domain and Retrogames daily to keep on top of things.
30. What are your preferred emulators?
Magic Engine, Genecyst, KGen, NeoRAGE, NESticle, Callus, Raine and (of
course) MAME.
31. I know, it's a bit idiot, but there is a chance to back Genesis ROMs and
some missing NeoGeo ROMs on NeoGeo section?
There's no chance of the Genesis games returning unless Sega (and its third
parties) allows their games to be distributed online. As for the missing Neo
Geo ROMs, they likely will NOT be added, as I am currently working a full
time job that barely leaves me enough time to scratch my nose.
32. Besides the current ROMs availables for NeoGeo, will you add NeoGeo CD
ISOs?
Not likely. See above.
33. What's your opinion about EmuNews episody (Classicgaming VS J. Pragit)?
According James, "Fragmaster was the guy who killed EmuNews"
I know nothing about the situation, so I cannot comment on it. My personal
dealings with Kevin (Fragmaster) have been extremely positive.
34. As I could see, you have a DreamCast. What do you think about SEGA's
idea to add Genesis/Turbo Grafx 16 emulators for their new console?
I don't agree with their cost structure, but I think it's a great idea
regardless. In general, I'm 100% in favor of ANY new emulator... ;)
35. Sam Pettus, aka The Scribe (EmuFAQ and another important FAQs creator),
has quit emu scene some days ago. Is it the destination for all old guys
from emu scene?
I think a lot of "old timers" are a bit fed up with what the scene has
become lately. Although I can't speak for Sam Pettus, I understand his
motives for wanting to make a break from the scene. For every one person who
reveres emulation as a method for "preserving" classic games, there's about
five others who consider emulation to be the ultimate piracy tool. Despite
that, there are still a great number of well-respected emulation web sites
that don't focus on (or even acknowledge) the piracy aspect of emulation.
36. Do you agree with SMS Power policy which asks for money before releases?
Well, I don't DISAGREE with it. Web hosting doesn't come cheap, and they
have to pay for it somehow. They're doing the emulation scene a great
service by dumping these games, so what's wrong with them asking for a bit
of money to cover expenses?
37. What are you expecting for emulation and what's still missing or wrong?
Emulation has come a LONG way in the last couple of years. Emulators exist
for almost every game system and home computer, leaving very few systems
unemulated. The two systems that I'd most like to see emulated are the Sega
CD and the Atari Jaguar. Capcom CPS2 emulation would be nice as well, but
it's a pipe dream until the encryption can be cracked.
38. Do we really enjoy emulation or it is just the little pirate inside us
flourishing that keeps us here collecting roms ?
Good question. There's no denying that it's very cool to have a complete
collection of every game released for a particular system. The piracy aspect
is unfortunate, as emulation can be a very positive thing, allowing people
to relive memories of classic games or even play rare games for the first
time. Instead of visiting endless flea markets and swap meets looking for
classic games, they can now be downloaded for free over the Internet.
When the Dump first went online, there were very few sites that provided ROM
and disk images for download. Now they flourish, even under the watchful eye
of the IDSA. Although I'm often regarded as something of a trailblazer in
the scene, I simply consider myself an avid video gamer who gets a thrill
out of sharing his game collection with the rest of the world.